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Built_Well

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:49 pm
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News flash: Toyota may eclipse Chevy as the best-selling *brand* in
America today. The latest sales figures come out today.

This has never happened before. Toyota may beat Chevy
for the first time ever, as the best-selling Brand in
America.

Today "Mom, Chevrolet, and apple pie" may become "Mom, Toyota, and
apple pie" for the first time ever.

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Built_Well

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:17 pm
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dbu` wrote:
> In article ,
> Built_Well wrote:
>
> > News flash: Toyota may eclipse Chevy as the best-selling *brand* in
> > America today. The latest sales figures come out today.
> >
> > This has never happened before. Toyota may beat Chevy
> > for the first time ever, as the best-selling Brand in
> > America.
> >
> > Today "Mom, Chevrolet, and apple pie" may become "Mom, Toyota, and
> > apple pie" for the first time ever.
>
> Wanna see how tough Toyota's are, if you scroll down you will see a
> Tacoma.
>
> http://www.crh.noaa.gov/fgf/?n=northwood_tor_pics
>
========

I love Chevy (that's what my dad mostly bought), but you
gotta hand it to Toyota. They've done a yeoman's job.

The GM and Toyota figures will all be released at about
1:30 PM Eastern today--65 minutes away..

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:58 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:02 pm
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Well, my Pontiac dealer wants $400 to replace my radio as the solution
to a burnt display lamp ($0.20 part) on my 2005 Montana.

I'll be buying a Toyota next time.

Built_Well wrote:
> News flash: Toyota may eclipse Chevy as the best-selling *brand* in
> America today. The latest sales figures come out today.
>
> This has never happened before. Toyota may beat Chevy
> for the first time ever, as the best-selling Brand in
> America.
>
> Today "Mom, Chevrolet, and apple pie" may become "Mom, Toyota, and
> apple pie" for the first time ever.
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:02 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:33 pm
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On Sep 4, 2:50 pm, Brent wrote:

>
> Well the last 3 GM's I had were all built outside of America. Not sure
> how buying them saved any American jobs.

LOL.. My 05 corolla was built in California... Most of the profit
probably went back to Japan, but they paid workers, etc, so
it's not totally bad..
We've had U.S cars that were built in Canada... And it seems I've
seen some that were built in Mexico, or at least a lot of the
parts seemed to be.

>
> I say buy the best product....whatever that product is.

Yep, thats about the way I see it.. I see good vehicles made
by both sides.. But to get what I wanted, which was max mpg
for a non complicated car, I had to go with either the corolla ,
or a civic. The american brands of that year range didn't quite
do as well in general. They seem to have killed off some of the
models I might have considered for heavier cars.
The corolla gets a solid 41 mpg on the highway if I do 65, and
thats with the automatic. Not many U.S cars would do that,
if any that I can think of.
I just drove over 900 miles just this past weekend, as I went
up to my place in OK for the weekend. Being as I go up there a
lot, it saves me a load of $$$ for gas.
I check that mpg every time I go to OK.. It's the same every time.
And for some reason, Oklahoma is getting bent over for gas
lately. I'm not sure what the deal is. In the past, as recently
as Feb, March, the gas prices up there were appx the same
as Houston, Dallas, etc.. Hardly ever more than 5-10 cents
difference. But now... Gas in most stations at McAlester,
Eufaula, etc were running 2.99 a gallon this past weekend.
Cross over into TX, and it drops 30 cents right off the bat.
Dallas and Houston both right now average 2.54-2.55 a
gallon at many places. I've even seen it at cheap stations in
the 2.40's range.
Needless to say, I don't buy gas in OK lately.. I wait till I
get back to TX.. And it's easy to do getting 40+ mpg..
Those people up in OK are getting bent over, and I can't see
any real reason for it. Seems to be a recent change too.
I wonder if most there even realize they are getting the hook..?
Maybe you don't notice if you never go anywhere else..
As far as chevies, we had a 02 Impala for a while. It was a
pretty good car. But.. It didn't get no 40 mpg.. More like 25-27.
BTW, I've put almost 11k on the corolla since March, and no
problems so far.. Rap on wood...It now has about 35k total.
I did have a Evap problem, but that was cuz I overfilled the gas
tank and flooded the canister.
It dried up, and cleared the codes on it's own.. It's had enough
run cycles by now, it should be totally clean as far as the OBD2
puter.. Anyway, as you can see, mpg is a big issue to me lately..
The less I have to give to the oil companies, the better.
:/
MK
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:55 pm
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Don't you mean "My two Moms, Toyota, and apple pie from China" The county
is going to hell and American consumers do not seem to care that they are
sending their children's and grand children's job off shore LOL

mike


"Built_Well" wrote in message

>
> News flash: Toyota may eclipse Chevy as the best-selling *brand* in
> America today. The latest sales figures come out today.
>
> This has never happened before. Toyota may beat Chevy
> for the first time ever, as the best-selling Brand in
> America.
>
> Today "Mom, Chevrolet, and apple pie" may become "Mom, Toyota, and
> apple pie" for the first time ever.
>
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Mike Hunter

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:56 pm
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Have you checked the price of a Toyota radio, or any other Toyota part for
that matter? Me thinks you simply need to take you car to a radio shop and
have the bulb replaced LOL

mike

"Pat Coghlan" wrote in message

> Well, my Pontiac dealer wants $400 to replace my radio as the solution to
> a burnt display lamp ($0.20 part) on my 2005 Montana.
>
> I'll be buying a Toyota next time.
>
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80 Knight

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:10 pm
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"Built_Well" wrote in message

>
> News flash: Toyota may eclipse Chevy as the best-selling *brand* in
> America today. The latest sales figures come out today.
>
> This has never happened before. Toyota may beat Chevy
> for the first time ever, as the best-selling Brand in
> America.
>
> Today "Mom, Chevrolet, and apple pie" may become "Mom, Toyota, and
> apple pie" for the first time ever.

News flash: You are a complete moron.
You keep sending your money to the Japanese, I'm sure they are very grateful
for it. But, when your job goes out of the country because of it, don't
complain.
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Brent

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:50 pm
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80 Knight wrote:
> "Built_Well" wrote in message
>
>> News flash: Toyota may eclipse Chevy as the best-selling *brand* in
>> America today. The latest sales figures come out today.
>>
>> This has never happened before. Toyota may beat Chevy
>> for the first time ever, as the best-selling Brand in
>> America.
>>
>> Today "Mom, Chevrolet, and apple pie" may become "Mom, Toyota, and
>> apple pie" for the first time ever.
>
> News flash: You are a complete moron.
> You keep sending your money to the Japanese, I'm sure they are very grateful
> for it. But, when your job goes out of the country because of it, don't
> complain.

Well the last 3 GM's I had were all built outside of America. Not sure
how buying them saved any American jobs.

I say buy the best product....whatever that product is. You shouldn't
subsidize incompetence. It's funny, I always said that Toyota was just
like GM (bland, mostly boring vehicles), but reliable. It's proving true
to the market. I still wouldn't buy either one because of the looks.

b
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Mike Hunter

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:55 pm
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The Corolla is no longer made at the GM/Toyota plant in California, it is
made in Canada where Toyota can build if with more parts made overseas in a
non union plant.

The California plants union contract requires 70% of the parts and the
materials they are made of to be American, not north American but American.
That plant now makes the small Toyota truck and the Pontiac Vibe. The Vibes
Toyota twin, the Matrix, is also made in Canada more cheaply than the Vibe,
but the Matrix will cost you more to buy when similarly equipped the same as
the Vibe. Go figure

mike


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> On Sep 4, 2:50 pm, Brent wrote:
>
> LOL.. My 05 corolla was built in California... Most of the profit
> probably went back to Japan, but they paid workers, etc, so
> it's not totally bad..
> We've had U.S cars that were built in Canada... And it seems I've
> seen some that were built in Mexico, or at least a lot of the
> parts seemed to be.
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:20 pm
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"80 Knight" wrote in message
>>> News flash: You are a complete moron.
>>> You keep sending your money to the Japanese, I'm sure they are very
>>> grateful for it. But, when your job goes out of the country because of
>>> it, don't complain.


I heard just the other day that one of the Big Three will no longer pour
blocks
here in Amerika. All their engine production will be in China.

Be careful who you indict.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:20 pm
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"Mike Hunter" wrote in message

> Don't you mean "My two Moms, Toyota, and apple pie from China" The
> county is going to hell and American consumers do not seem to care that
> they are sending their children's and grand children's job off shore LOL
>
> mike
>
>
I doubt seriously that they're going to send offshore the 10,000 jobs
currently at TMMK in Georgetown, KY.

They make a very nice bunch of products there.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:05 am
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Mike Hunter wrote:
> Cars with the Toyota brand name on the grill has been the number one selling
> "Brand" of cars for two years...
========

Well, if you're right, then the commentators on the CNBC business
channel were wrong last night. They said the Chevy brand still
outsells the Toyota brand in the U.S., but just barely.

When we, instead, talk about Toyota overtaking GM, we're usually
talking about world-wide sales, not U.S. alone.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:08 am
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Built_Well wrote:
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> Cars with the Toyota brand name on the grill has been the number one
>> selling "Brand" of cars for two years...
> ========
>
> Well, if you're right, then the commentators on the CNBC business
> channel were wrong last night. They said the Chevy brand still
> outsells the Toyota brand in the U.S., but just barely.
>
> When we, instead, talk about Toyota overtaking GM, we're usually
> talking about world-wide sales, not U.S. alone.

================

In the U.S., Toyota is about to claim the Number 2 spot, overtaking
Ford. Toyota is already Number 2 when considering overall /world-wide/
sales.
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