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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:15 pm
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My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
much?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:55 pm
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> My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> much?
>
Have you looked at the repair invoice, or talked to the dealer's service
manager? If not, why not?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:39 pm
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programmer DeleteThis @att.net wrote:
> My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> much?
>
The front exhaust pipe is usually stainless steel. The catalytic
converter is probably bolted to it. Find out exactly what was replaced.
If it was associated with the emissions control system (front pipe /
cat) it is probably covered under warranty on a seven year old car.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:51 pm
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On Sep 5, 1:55 pm, "mack" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> news:1189008929.646924.253950@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...> My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> > much?
>
> Have you looked at the repair invoice, or talked to the dealer's service
> manager? If not, why not?

The part replaced was "pipe Assembly, 17410-03300"
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:51 pm
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On Sep 5, 12:20 pm, Jeff wrote:
> program... DeleteThis @att.net wrote:
> > My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> > much?
>
> What parts did the dealer put in?
>
> How much were each of the parts?
>
> How much for labor?
>
> Who authorized the repairs?
>
> Did you hear a sucking sound coming from your waller?
>
> Jeff


The part replaced was "pipe Assembly, 17410-03300"
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:54 pm
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On Sep 5, 1:55 pm, "mack" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> news:1189008929.646924.253950@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...> My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> > much?
>
> Have you looked at the repair invoice, or talked to the dealer's service
> manager? If not, why not?


Well I hope the dealer is being fair/honest here. What bothers me is
that I am in the dark. It was a catalytic converter I would
understand. Just a pipe?? that I do not understand.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:11 pm
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On Sep 5, 9:23 am, Tegger wrote:
> program....DeleteThis@att.net wrote in
> @w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> > much?
>
> Did the repair include the catalytic converter? Then that's your reason.
>
> I think the cat on that car is right up against the exhaust manifold.
>
> --
> Tegger

I'm generally a fan of OEM parts but a $1700 catalytic converter seems
like highway robbery to me. Lithia, the dealer in Medford, Oregon
quoted me $1700 or so to replace the cat with an OEM one.

I thought that was high -- went to a local shop and got one after
parts and labor was around $320. It's yet to let me down in over a
year now and the car passes SMOG like a champ.

So, I would love to know what I am not getting by not going OEM on a
cat but so far, I feel like I saved an arm and a leg and still got a
quality part from what I see.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:30 pm
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On Sep 5, 1:25 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
> "mrsteveo" wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 5, 9:23 am, Tegger wrote:
> >> program....RemoveThis@att.net wrote in
> >> @w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> >> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> >> > much?
>
> >> Did the repair include the catalytic converter? Then that's your reason.
>
> >> I think the cat on that car is right up against the exhaust manifold.
>
> >> --
> >> Tegger
>
> > I'm generally a fan of OEM parts but a $1700 catalytic converter seems
> > like highway robbery to me. Lithia, the dealer in Medford, Oregon
> > quoted me $1700 or so to replace the cat with an OEM one.
>
> > I thought that was high -- went to a local shop and got one after
> > parts and labor was around $320. It's yet to let me down in over a
> > year now and the car passes SMOG like a champ.
>
> > So, I would love to know what I am not getting by not going OEM on a
> > cat but so far, I feel like I saved an arm and a leg and still got a
> > quality part from what I see.
>
> The following is not a conclusive answer, but only a possible clue:
>
> With older Toyotas, my independent mechanic has told me to go to the dealer
> for exhaust work because (at the time), they offered a lifetime warranty on
> that type of work. However, I don't recall it being 3 or 5 or 9 times the
> price of what my mechanic quoted. More, but not that much more.

RayO would be the man to know...

I know the cat is covered by certain state/federal regulations however
I don't think the cat itself has a lifetime warranty.

I'm almost sure I have seen RayO say that mufflers for instance when
done at the dealer and it's a Toyota OEM part, it has a lifetime
warranty. Same with struts. I would imagine there are more parts but
someone and/or RayO could go into more specifics for sure.

Even with a lifetime warranty, I don't think I would replace the cat
with an OEM cat for $1700. Just my personal opinion.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:32 pm
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On Sep 5, 1:23 pm, "Truckdude" wrote:
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>
>
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> > My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> > much?
>
> Pardon me, but why on Earth is your wife handling car repairs?

My mother has a good friend who knows vehicles inside and out. She's
not much into the computer aspect the mechanical aspect she knows
quite well. She's done some rebuilds, some overhauls, replacements...
engines, transmissions, etc. Very well rounded woman.

Also, the local Toyota dealer has a woman I went to school with.
Krystal Morgan? I think that's her name. She's an outstanding
technician there and knows her Toyota vehicles very well.

Not *all* women are car idiots...
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:56 pm
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programmer RemoveThis @att.net wrote in
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> My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> much?
>
>


Did the repair include the catalytic converter? Then that's your reason.

I think the cat on that car is right up against the exhaust manifold.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:20 pm
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programmer.DeleteThis@att.net wrote:
> My wife took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
> The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
> much?

What parts did the dealer put in?

How much were each of the parts?

How much for labor?

Who authorized the repairs?

Did you hear a sucking sound coming from your waller?

Jeff
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:19 pm
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On Sep 5, 3:11 pm, mrsteveo wrote:

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> I'm generally a fan of OEM parts but a $1700 catalytic converter seems
> like highway robbery to me.

I'd have to agree. But... The OEM cats are a lot better than
most aftermarket brands.. But I agree.. Not $1700 worth..
Good grief...

>
> I thought that was high -- went to a local shop and got one after
> parts and labor was around $320. It's yet to let me down in over a
> year now and the car passes SMOG like a champ.

I've had them done at muffler shops a lot cheaper than that.
Under $200 with labor..
But... the last one I bought for my 1989 accord proved to be a
piece of junk overall. I actually got a worse NOX score on the
new cat, that I did on the old one that was over 15 years old.
I think it was a "maremont" brand..

>
> So, I would love to know what I am not getting by not going OEM on a
> cat but so far, I feel like I saved an arm and a leg and still got a
> quality part from what I see.

A lot better cat.. But for what I think is an inflated price if they
want $1700.. Thats sick... I wouldn't buy one either at
that rate.
But if the one you have is passing, thats the bottom line..
I'm sure brands probably vary. But some are junk.
They all claim they pass the required specs, but when I
see a brand new cat blow a worse NOX score than one over
15 years old, with no other engine mods, that @#$A% ain't right..
I had to resort to other measures to get it to pass. IE: retarded
the timing.
The new one blew a slightly lower HC score, but was fairly
useless at NOX reduction.
MK
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:55 pm
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> On Sep 5, 1:55 pm, "mack" wrote:
>> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1189008929.646924.253950@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...> My wife
>> took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
>> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
>> > much?
>>
>> Have you looked at the repair invoice, or talked to the dealer's service
>> manager? If not, why not?
>
> The part replaced was "pipe Assembly, 17410-03300"
>

Go back to the dealership's parts department with that UPC number on a piece
of paper, and do not show the receipt for the work on the car. Ask what that
part number is, and get a price. You should be able to figure out the rest.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:55 pm
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message

> wrote in message
>
>> On Sep 5, 1:55 pm, "mack" wrote:
>>> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1189008929.646924.253950@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...> My wife
>>> took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
>>> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
>>> > much?
>>>
>>> Have you looked at the repair invoice, or talked to the dealer's service
>>> manager? If not, why not?
>>
>> The part replaced was "pipe Assembly, 17410-03300"
>>
>
> Go back to the dealership's parts department with that UPC number on a
> piece of paper, and do not show the receipt for the work on the car. Ask
> what that part number is, and get a price. You should be able to figure
> out the rest.

Makes sense to me; add the labor to the cost of the part(s), tax if
applicable, & that should add up to what your bill was. If not, then
question the service dep't.

Cathy

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:55 pm
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> On Sep 5, 1:55 pm, "mack" wrote:
>> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1189008929.646924.253950@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...> My wife
>> took our 2000 Camry CE in for repair due to a "muffler noise"
>> > The dealer replace a front exhaust pipe assembly for $1200. Why so
>> > much?
>>
>> Have you looked at the repair invoice, or talked to the dealer's service
>> manager? If not, why not?
>
>
> Well I hope the dealer is being fair/honest here. What bothers me is
> that I am in the dark. It was a catalytic converter I would
> understand. Just a pipe?? that I do not understand.
>

What exactly was the breakdown of parts vs labor? If they are shown
separately on your bill (which they should be), please describe them here in
detail.
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